Posts by days of future passed

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confused with nowhere to turn

by Rebecca in

i'm 43 and a divorced mother of 2. in january 2019 i met the man i thought i could spend the rest of my life with.

we were happy and even though our relationship wasn't perfect (like all relationships) i thought we had a chance and were building a life together with our young kids.

background on me - i've been divorced since 2012 after 12 years of marriage.

days of future passed

His whole family is JW and his mother is very sick.

This is what probably started his return. Once he contacted them again, his mother would express a wish for him to come back to Jehovah.
If he has never examined the religion and came to the realization that it isn't truthful at all, it's like a virus that has reactivated. Probably he has been living life while looking over his shoulder in fear of Armageddon. Or the other reason may be that in order for him to have time with his mom before she dies, he was willing to sacrifice you and your children. Because JW's shun as others have said. That would have meant no contact if she and the others are hard case witnesses.

Sorry that you have to be betrayed like that. The religion doesn't really care about those that follow them no matter what their literature says. It's just money that they care about.

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Adam could have put Jehovah In Paradox!

by JohnTron72 in

i'm going to be the first and throw this out there for others but, from careful study of the scriptures i've found a loophole that even adam who was perfect at the time missed!

i'm sure everyone has heard the conundrum about ,"can god create a rock he can't lift?

" and if he can't create one he can't lift, then god cannot do everything" well that doesn't really matter since we know jehovah says himself he cannot lie right?

days of future passed

JonTron72

I like that you put a lot of thought into this. It is inventive and twistie. I am curious as to how you started off on this tangent. Maybe you wanted to figure out a way to get the human race out of this mess. The mess being (from the biblical explanation) that humanity went over the cliff with Adam and Eve and into sin. Sin of course made everyone imperfect, have bad tendencies and eventually become old and ill and suffer and die. All preventable if Adam chose not to have children, commit suicide or kill Eve.

Don't be upset over Star Trek. Even tho there were Tribbles and hippie space gurus, the writers did have episodes where they tried to educate or comment on human foibles. Sci Fi writers try to make people view problems or conditions in a different way. Sometimes with humor or with ??? Somewhat like you.

I would like to extend your story. What if the Adam found in the bible, wasn't the first Adam? God, not looking ahead to see if what he made really was perfect (at least in the way he imagined perfect) created Adam 1. He also had a host of beings he called angels that he created first. After a few hundred years, the angels saw that God liked a lot of attention. Some of them had to bow down continually praising him which meant they led an oppressive and restrictive life. They had to strictly obey God or end up dead. So when the first Adam was created, one of the angels decided to talk with him about their experiences with God and what it was like and what he could expect. Adam 1 found the truth in it when God started talking to him everyday. Eventually, he refused to do things like God wanted him to. So God, not liking that his creation - angelic or human - contradicted him, got rid of them all and started again. Time after time, things didn't go as God wanted them to. Eventually, although he knew what he created was perfect (because he was a fantastic creator) he decided it was everyone else's fault. Imposed penalties and made sure that the story correctly put the blame where it belonged. All the children from the last Adam he created, also got the penalty. Amazingly he told later descendants, that you weren't supposed to blame sons for their fathers mistakes. But you know, God can't do anything wrong.

I don't believe in the God of the bible because once you just view him as a person with power - just like a human president, king or dictator - you see that he isn't fair. Forgive David for having sex with a married woman, who killed her husband and cover it over. Instead kill the child that had no choice. In contrast - no forgiveness for Uzzah for putting a hand out to steady the ark, which by the way, was another stupid thing that David messed up on by putting it on cart. What about the husband of Bathsheba? Loyal, faithful and dead. God didn't do anything to protect him from David or even expose David before it got that far.

The list goes on. Imagine those things.

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Poll: When my PIMI wife comes back from meeting. she is a different person. how many out there experience the same and why?

by goingthruthemotions in

so i am trying to understand if i am the only pomo that experiences the situation where the pimi spouse comes back from a meeting a different personanlity.

it may not be obivious to the untrained eye, but i notice it and i know my sons notice it.

this last round after all the loyalty bs and armagedon bs it's like she has stayed stuck in it.

days of future passed

You have to be a true believer to get that effect. I'd see the witnesses at work talking about the assemblies and how great it was that Armageddon was so close! Gave me the feeling that they were whispering and smiling because only they knew what was really going on.

Most of my JW family in the past, never exhibited that. Ours was the opposite. Home from the meeting and nothing was said about anything that went on there.

Meetings and assemblies have a more sinister result now that my sister, her family and I have left. My mother was all righteous over the latest instructions about shunning. That has also affected my still in younger sister her husband to treat us differently.

Both reactions are annoying to say the least.

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The White Rose - written by Ex Hitler Youths

by days of future passed in

there wasn't a place to really peg this so i just picked this area to post.. one of the interests i have is fossils and finding things in the ground.

i stumbled onto a lady that does mudlarking in england.

it's amazing what is found by the river - some very old coins, bottles, pottery, smoking pipes etc.

days of future passed

Looks like a lot of fun to mudlark.

I'd never heard of the Scholls in any program. They were very brave to take on Hitler.

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The White Rose - written by Ex Hitler Youths

by days of future passed in

there wasn't a place to really peg this so i just picked this area to post.. one of the interests i have is fossils and finding things in the ground.

i stumbled onto a lady that does mudlarking in england.

it's amazing what is found by the river - some very old coins, bottles, pottery, smoking pipes etc.

days of future passed

There wasn't a place to really peg this so I just picked this area to post.

One of the interests I have is fossils and finding things in the ground. I stumbled onto a lady that does mudlarking in England. It's amazing what is found by the river - some very old coins, bottles, pottery, smoking pipes etc. She happened to find a belt buckle - it turned out to be a Hitler's Youth one. In her research, she found the story of 3 siblings that had joined the group but later became disillusioned. They wrote "The White Rose" which spoke out against Hitler and spread the leaflets in towns. They were caught and executed 2 days after being sentenced.

It brought to mind how all of these organizations/religions try to grab children at an early age. They enforce a template of what the children will be when they are adults.

I've never heard of these young people before and their efforts to make a difference. If you want to watch this part, it starts at 17:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1-sYVu92bk

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Latest Circuit Assembly Money Assault!

by eyeuse2badub in

probably not new to many of you but i'm gonna post it anyway!.

i went to a circuit assembly last week at the fremont, ca assembly hall in fremont, ca to be with my wife so she could be there to 'witness' the baptism of a person she "studied" with about 2 decades ago!.

at the main entry to the assembly hall there are 3 or 4 large double door entrances.

days of future passed

Yes I used to go that hall. The first time they openly used credit cards, the bros were sitting at tables with a small machine hooked up. They looked embarrassed.

Are you now saying they have actual ATM there?

The Pharisees of old are smiling with approval.

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Quote Misquote Misleading

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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the latest watchtowel (march 2020) study edition has a question from readers ‘what evidence exists outside the bible that the israelites were slaves in egypt?’ from what i read in the bible unearthed there being nothing to base any claims on.

the article gives a quote by ‘dr.

bimson : “the biblical traditions of the bondage in egypt and of the exodus have a firm historical basis.” no links or sources given.

days of future passed

I will always assume, that when the WT gets a lot of questions or hear of murmuring (from dubs or ex jw's) about a subject, they jump into action to find someone of "authority" to support their side.

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Ignorance is bliss.

by joey jojo in

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everyone's heard this statement before but i only just read the full quote, or proverb, which is taken from a 1742 poem.

it seems fitting to share it.

'thought would destroy their paradise;.

days of future passed

That says it all.

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Did You Know Any "Genuine"" Old School Anointed?

by Number 6 in

growing up in scotland in the 1970s in scotland the anointed were few and far between, but we had one old dude in our cong who claimed to be one of the anointed.

in the days when it was taken seriously.. i'd be curious how you viewed them.

thing is, he wasn't an elder, or even a ministerial servant, just a plain old publisher.. but he was revered like he had a hotline to jesus.. the other week i was talking to a friend of similar age to me but who hung around the wt a lot longer than i did, and he just commented "oh him... he was a doddery old fool who used to just sit and piss himself.

days of future passed

The most colorful anointed one we had in our hall when I was young, had apparently "died" at the hospital but awoke in the morgue.

She always wore nice clothes that belonged in the 50's with black patent leather shoes with pointy toes and 1 1/4" inch tiny heels. Back when they had live music in the halls, she would come up to the piano, sweep her skirt under her backside and sit on the bench. Then with a flourish she would start pounding out the melody. She sometimes lost her way and would start over again much to the frustration of the conductor. She was so animated that she reminded me of those silent movie accompanists. Even into her eighties, she wore the same clothes with cat's eye glasses. The only real conversation I had with her involved a telephone cord that was used to subdue a person that had attacked her. The whole hall tolerated her and wasn't mean to her. She was a cheerful crazy person.

Another was a sister who was very down to earth and looked like Shirley Winters when she was younger. Her mother was anointed and had lived in a convent for most of her life. She became anointed when she was around 30 or so. It made my mother jealous because she couldn't figure out why her and not me? She was humble, kind and funny. Never made a big deal out of it and had the attitude of "well he said he would pick all sorts of people" She got along with most of the people at the hall and was very sincere.

One of the newest anointed was someone I grew up around. She had a very disturbing family life growing up. The elder husband she married, eventually did her wrong. She became anointed around 30 or so. She certainly could turn on you in a second and be a witch. She believed she was, but she also used it to be over others. She hated that the elders looked down her as well as the GB making out that those of her age were "mistaken". I believe it helps her feel valued and special. But she doesn't impress me as being "christian"

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What is the housing / accomodation living conditions of all of the Governing Body Members ? Does anybody know ?

by smiddy3 in

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i would be very curious to know what standard of living they have .

and what type of housing each member has and what type of accomadation do they have and even what type of areas they are living in .

unlike many of the rank & file members who live in housing estates provided for the low income earners and pensioners ?

days of future passed

I would think that they live a special wing at Warwick. Better security and all. They of course have their own heath care there too.